Entries for November, 2004

November 1st, 2004

is Me, thAts me...

Mmm.. just finish my dinner.... quite a nice dinner.. din't eat much.. cos after 3 then eat lunch...hehe...

sat.. morning take laptop from him to help him reformat.. but damn don't know why always half way will hang.. don't know real and pirated cd will have this error.. so i reformat the whole thing still cannot.. i think is my cd problem..sms wj.. ask him lend me the cd... evening meet py after her work for shopping.. walk at suntec and orchard... so at suntec did not brought anything... at orchard.. py brought perfume for her bf...not bad... she brought echo and one more i forget what name.. is suitable for malay guys... hehe... so have some sample of the name perfume.. black code.. is nice.. i recommand it.. so i went top man and brought a windbreaker.. finally i brought one.. is at topshop...hehe... is 79 dollars.. this money going to be broke.. saw one levi t shirt.. quite cool.. maybe next month then buy... haha.. 49+... damn.. so x...at nite.. went slacking.. at bt timah... meeting some of my friends to chat and take some supper... hehe.. then went home after that...

sun...plan to rot at home one.. but last min went to bugis to pray.. so many ppl...(sorry rg, nv ask u.. last min decisious) when home straight after that.. meet xj at nite.. to take the vb.net cd... finally return to me..haha.. but mine is with lynn.. the cd is wj one.. going to return him..haha.. owe him quite long...hehe...so the rest of the day was rotting and solving the laptop.. get the cd from wj went i was on the way home from bugis.. use the cd and try..if i use a small size of the c drive.. it can works.. but use bigger size will hang.. so i think is his hd problem..haha.. wq god bless....hehe...

today.. went out with dad to beach road.. brought some fishing equipment back.. cos going to chalet on the 19 of nov.. hehe.. reach home.. watch part 1 and 2 of too fast too furious.. both not bad.. but prefer part 1.. more nice... hehe.. sianz.. tomorrow going back to school.. going to start my project liao... haiz....
Posted by gr at 07:43 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 5th, 2004

boring...

now at school... and my that dear parnter just come.. sad.. have being rotting for around 1 hours plus.... sob....hehe.... reach school today.. no mood to do anything... maybe cos yest nv do anything.. think today also rot ba... weekend is coming... just few hours away... haha... so fast... 2 weeks are gone... 4 more weeks is start of school liao... hehe....

tue and wed: haiz... sad... go school again... sianz... got holiday like no holiday...came back school and do fyp...

half way.. continue at home..
Posted by gr at 11:44 AM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 7th, 2004

Mmm...still awake...

Mmm..previous blog say reach home then blog but.. no mood.. hehe... now is 1.52.. still not sleep.. lately have being sleeping quite late.. don't know why...just finish some collon(chocolate flavoured biscuit roll)... think later drink some milk before sleeping...

thur never went school.. was rotting at home.. d.l shows to watch.. was as usual.. eat,sleep,watch show...

fri at school.. also never done much thing... just went meet supervisor talk awhile.. have my lunch then went home...was a short one.. cos my partner was tired... so have a short one.. and weekend is coming...haha....

today never went anywhere except went to chinatown to eat with my parents.. eat the cornflake prawn.. very nice.. don't know why have the feeling to eat that...haha... so after that shop away then went home.. was quite bored.. reach home.. watch tv and read comic again.. sianz...

yest my friend call me.. say that my ex gf grandma has just pass away... so i was like.. oh man... haiz... sob... so we planning to go down one day to the funeral.. was planning to go down 2 days.. but i think my parents not allow..so planning to go down tomorrow with calvin... when i heard that.. i was so worried for her.. don't know how is she now.. haiz... sometime really hate to heard this type of things.. but thats life...haiz...sob...

don't know why yest.. was thinking.. what will happen will i die.. haiz.. don't know why got this type of thinking.. when i think of it i will scared....so everytime i try not to think about it.... i don't like to go to funeral.. but no choice.. she is my friend and also my ex... also must go down and take a look....haiz...

this blog alot of haiz.. sob.. and saddening inside.. hope will not affect when u all read about this... if it will... i sorry....
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November 8th, 2004

boring day....

Is mon again... sianz.. no one home accept me... so sianz.. no place to go.. no one to accompany...sobz... no mood to do fyp...haiz....

yest was rotting the whole day... morning accompany my bro and my mum to NTUC and buy things.. came back awhile.. accompany my bro go buy clothes.. got discount.. brought 2 for himself and 1 for dad.. i did not buy another even though my mum pay for it.. cos i do not like it.. so after that... at home rot again...

nite went to my ex gf grandmother song ka... this is my first time going there.. even though when i am small my grandfather pass away i still do not know anything.. so reach there quite blur.. do nothing.. sit down chat,eat and drink... only me,cal,terence,ly and hy went.. cos qiang and py working.. one of my friend ask about my ex gf gm.. i can see her feel like crying out when she answer.. don't know why.. when i saw her like that.. i just feel worry for her.. haiz... just hope she is fine..

reach home around 1130... chat a while in net and went to sleep... really very tired... yest.. 130 i slept already.. and today 11 plus then wake up.. pig rite... ya.. i admit i pig...haha.. eat and sleep... thinking going back and rot... hehe... blog next time....

hope u are rite... (this sentence is specially for my ex and all my friends out there...) and ml don't think too much ok...hehe... take care...
Posted by gr at 01:41 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 9th, 2004

tired...

Mmm.. just taken my bath and have my lunch.. i ate burger king.. just feel like eating...haha... wake up at 1030.. force myself up..haha.. see the weather so nice... went swimming.. now quite tired...haha...blog next time.. going to take a nap...haha

shortest of my blog...hehe...
Posted by gr at 03:09 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 11th, 2004

sTeAmb0At....

whahaha... later going with calvin they all to eat steamboat.... haha.. just ate mos burger... i think later still can eat...hehe...

tue went swimming which i have say earlier in my blog... wake up from my nap.. i was like... so soft... long time nv exercise liao...hehe... so after that never done anything just rot..haha...

wed also done nothing.. just read abit of things for my fyp.. then rot again...haha... at nite calvin msg me... ask me out... just went to cosy bay to relax.. drink somethings.. even though there is no wind... but have my favourite stars.. quite alot of stars.. and don't know why i always see 3 stars in a row...hehe... so after that went geylany(don't know how to spell) to walk walk... reach home around 230 already...haha...

today wake up quite early 10.. cos remember got jay mtv.. so don't have much sleep...hehe... so continue to watch tv and eat...haha... d.led bleach 6 and hotman 2..now d.l nautro 108... is my weekly routine liao... haha... this week bleach 6 quite ok... but i like hotman...

this week hotman is so touching... one of the gal best friend is going to shift school cos her parents is going to divid... i was about to cry out loh...hehe... from the story i learn something from it.. if u have time go and d.l and watch...hehe...

sy: mei sure or not...hehe.. not as good as your kor is it...hehe.. how good u want... =P

I won't hurt you...I promise you, when you come to me...I'll make you happy..No matter what happens, I'lll be on your side...
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November 12th, 2004

new Blog...

Mm... any comments for my new appearance of my blog...??

scared & excited... results is coming out soon....
Posted by gr at 01:58 AM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

rEsu|t...

just taken dinner... was abit full now.. planning to eat pork chop and dessert later for my supper...haha.. pig hor...=P

yest even though i say i want to go and sleep... i lay on the bed flip here and there.. sleep like never sleep like that... is like i was half asleep and half awake... and i was waiting for ppl to call me... long time never have to type of feeling already.. don't know why.. maybe is because this sem not much confidence in my results...hehe...

This is my result...

INDUSTRIAL TRAINING PROGRAMME PX

CUSTOMER SERVICE COMMUNICATION B

FAST STARTUP THROUGH FRANCHISING B+

WORLD ISSUES: A SINGAPORE PERSPECTIVE B+

C PROGRAMMING B

INTERNET COMPUTING B+

NETWORK ARCHITECTURES (NETPREP) B+

SYSTEMS SECURITY B


ok only rite.. can score better one.. all because of my exams.. got careless mistakes or else can score better... nevermind is over already....sobz... but happy to see don't have any C+ this sem....hehe....
Posted by gr at 07:31 PM | 1 |0vEs/s...

November 14th, 2004

bored....

wah... nothing to do this few days.. yest never anywhere special.. all my friends are busy... either working or moving house... not like me.. carefree...haha... but carefree until i was bored to death...haha...

so went and d.l movies and songs...

1. ladder 49
2. shark tale
3. around the world in 80 days
4. taxis

1. Zhou Chuan Xiong
2. Jolin
3. SHE
4. Zheng Jing Xuan

haven watch and listen to them.. but i think the movies and songs i d.led is nice...haha... think of rushing all the movies by tomorrow.. so that can concertrate on fyp...haha...

yest night.. planning to go watch movies.. but my friend not free... so no choice... meet calvin around 11 and went to seletar and rot and see cars... not bad.. is a good place to enjoy the sky and stars... hehe...

this few days was thinking... next time if i have a house that is near the sea side so good... every nite i can see the sky and stars and listen to the sound of the sea... so shiok right... but i think is just a dream only...hehe.... recently saw the newspaper have a condo at marina square there... i think that is a nice condo too.. look down is the river and has a good view.. but i think is cost a bomb....haha..

stop here.. going back and rot...haha
Currently listening to: Jacky - Ta Lai Ting Wo De Yan Chang Hui
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November 15th, 2004

pAin...

Mmm... back home from dinner... my bro and his gf drive me and my parents to lao ba sa and went geylang and buy durian and some other fruits... one comment on my bro driving... don't know why he can pass his driving test with this type of skill...haha... maybe is long time nv drive... but if i give him upon 100... 50 marks...haha....

the dinner still ok..but before that... my bro was parking parallel parking.. is like taking half of the day...haha.... the durian is wonderful...haha... i just love durian.... last time when i was still small.. i think baby... my parents give me eat some durian.. is like i eat until very shiok.. my parents give me more... in the end... end up staying in hospital for 3 days... cos of high fever...haha....

k.. stop here for food.. later u all are see it will hungry...hehe... ok.. this morning.. quite ONs.. went to play soccer with my bro friends... don't know how many donkeys years or months never play soccer already.. my skill has become more worst... aiming become worst...haha.. no choice.. after that went to play table tennis.. also cannot make it.. cos also long time never play...hehe...

Mmm.. during soccer injure myself again... always go play soccer with them.. i sure have injure.. haiz... now... leg hurts.. heart hurts..... sobz... hope everything will be smooth soon....
Currently feeling: listless
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November 17th, 2004

nice songs lyrics

Jay - 安静

只剩下钢琴陪我谈了一天
睡着的大提琴 安静的旧旧的

我想你已表现的非常明白
我懂我也知道 你没有舍不得

你说你也会难过我不相信
牵着你陪着我 也只是曾经
希望他是真的比我还要爱你
我才会逼自己离开

你要我说多难堪 我根本不想分开
为什么还要我用微笑来带过
我没有这种天份 包容你也接受他
不用担心的太多 我会一直好好过
你已经远远离开 我也会慢慢走开
为什么我连分开都迁就着你
我真的没有天份 安静的没这么快
我会学着放弃你 是因为我太爱你

nice lyrics.. hehe.. just want to share with u all even thought it is a old song...heheh.....
Posted by gr at 01:01 AM | 1 |0vEs/s...

watching tv...

waha... now watching tv... quite nice lah.. the 1 guess.. cute gals.. =P

so today quite carefree.. wake up early go school.. then after that home.. then go out again... bro is on leave until his ROD.. so he accompany go bugis..we go walk walk and eat bak ku te for lunch... saw michelle at bugis junction.. so qiao...haha after that... suntec.. went to NYDC eat mudpie...haha.... then go back bugis again.. cos he meeting his gf... so did not buy anything... my bro just go see handphone and hi fi.. saw some.. not bad.. he planning to buy it.. up to him lah...haha...

he plan to trade his 6510... but i tell him to trade mine x430.. cos going to spoil soon.. =P... i use 6510 cos i going NS next year already.. so just nice to use this phone...hehe... down grade ah...hehe...

reach home around 835.. miss my PCK.. sad... sobz.. and never watch the 830 after the PCK too.. 9 pm channel U the swimming show is last esp already.. thats fast.. ending is quite ok.. expected....hahah....

i think today is a special day.. cos never or seldom go out with my bro to shop loh... and seldom we chat that much...haha... k.. thats all now.. going to watch taxis....hehe
Posted by gr at 01:05 AM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 18th, 2004

sch00l...

ok... at school now.. nothing to do.. waiting for charlene to come... and she is late again.. haiz... meet her serveral time... only 1 time she reach early...haha... k.. don't talk bad about her already...hehe...
sianz.. just now forget to tap my ez-link card.. i think 1+ is going to fly away again... sobz...

yest went out with my bro again for a while.. went to sell my handphone... is only worth 100 even thought that time i buy empty phone for 400 +... hehe... so after that went to airport to fetch my cousin..

the feeling is so good... maybe long time never being to airport.. meet my cousin at outram mrt and saw xinhui on the train with a guy...haha.. i thought is her bf.. but i was wrong...haha... so just nice reach airport.. the plane just landed... but have to wait for 1 hour cos.. must wait for her to buy some duty free perfume for me and my bro... i brought armanin black code.. is $85 for 50ml... can consider cheap.. outside sell more X...hehe... after that chat on her holiday and dinner at swenson after that..went her house... my cousin brought alot of food.. cos is cheap... hope i will go one day...hehe...

later going to d.l software for my fyp and explore the equipment... hope is working fine... evening going to IMM buy my chalet stuff.. going to enjoy the weekend at the chalet.. before next week i really going to start my fyp...hehe....

nowadays i day-dreaming alot.. don't know why.. was dreaming if i struck the first prize for TOTO.. i can buy my dream car... i also dream that if i can i want to have a house near the sea side.. everyday to have a carefree life.. looking at the stars everynite.. listen to the sound of the wind and sea.. so shiok...haha..
Currently listening to: SHE - Dan Nuu Ren Zhu Yi
Posted by gr at 10:46 AM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 21st, 2004

finally back...

ok.. i back from chalet in the evening... nite just went to take dinner....now doing nothing.. feel like sleeping soon.. quite tired... after 3 days of enjoyment...hehe...

Day 1: reach around 11+... was quite a bad day.. reach there a while start to fish.. but no fish... and soon it started to rain heavier... until evening... sad case.. first day rain already... so lucky at nite it stop rainning.. so we started our first bbq... bbq abit of things only..

Day 2: wake up around 830.. very early.. long time never so early wake up already... all wake up except me...haha.. take a bath and take my breakfast... after that.. started to fish.. cos is a fine day.. the sun is hot...haha... the whole day it did not rain.. i was either eating or fishing or flying kite...caught around 3 to 4 fishes... and stupid got 3 big fishes swim away.. i was damn sad and angry... haiz... one of the fish i caught is when.. my mum throw the food down... after a while i try and caught a fish.. i think is lucky...haha...fly some kite.. but is not successful.. so it ok.. my uncle fly two kite and hang there... but after a while i went and see one of the kite.. the line is broke by me.. another is don't know why it fell into the sea...haha... nite we have our second bbq... was a better bbq than the first one...hehe....

Last day.. last one to wake up again...haha...never bath cos going back in the afternoon.. went to have a stroll and feed fishes before went back and wash up and take breakfast...finish my breakfast went to feed fish again..haha.. is quite a boring day.. cos most of the thing is pack... so i like to sit at a place where i can listen the sea and have self-reflecting and thinking...hehe... around noon.. trying to go and catch some fish in the pond using net.. so end up.. i went to swim...haha.. so shiok... before going back.. it rain.. lucky went the boat is here.. the rain stop.. or else the wave will be super big...haha... so overall is quite a nice chalet to let me relax before i really start my fyp....haha....
Currently listening to: Zhang Zhen Yue - Bu Yao Shuo Ai Wo
Posted by gr at 09:43 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 23rd, 2004

Kbox.....

k... done with my supper.. my bro brought prawn noodle for me... the food not nice... still can eat...haha... now watching tv and drinking milk... pig hor...hehe... uploaded my usericon.. nice or not... act shy rite...haha...no should say.. i always that shy...hehe...

today.. went to school... have the mood to start my fyp already.. but...haha...i thought charlene is late...cos is around 11 already.. she sms say.. she is sick and just wake up so cannot meet me... so now choice... sms qiang for lunch.. but he say he just eaten.. meet calvin for dinner... after that... went bugis with jimmy...

jimmy went to meet his friend... we also walk a while and went to sim lim... see anything things to buy.. but end up nothing...haha... just nice help my bro to get all the paper which have the information of the latest software....hehe... so evening reach home... done nothing just rotting....haha...

back with my rotting life again....hehe.... tomorrow hope is going to be a fun day..cos i going to kbox... long time never being there.. going to shout out loud.. hope those go with me.. will not mind...haha....
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November 24th, 2004

tired...

last time when have my blog.. i everyday write blog.. but when school times.. i seldom write.. don't know why came back with my everyday blogging...haha...

k.. today went kbox.. well as usual.. all is late... haha... so si guan liao...haha.. got.. me,fc,wj,gz and qx.. once again yc fly kite...haha... so angry.. just kidding.... 2 + then went to sing.. quite a nice one.. long time never sing... but few songs i just shout...haha.. hope u all don't mind...haha.. this time go got some unusal thing happen.. not with us.. can heard 3 gals that are shouting.. with the door close and is at another row... power rite...haha... so wj planning to come around 4+ but raining so reach here around 6+.. so sang a few songs only... so paiseh to ask wj to pay...hehe...

after that.. went eat burger king... after dinner gz went off early to meet gf.. gz u good... haha... kidding.. after that.. just walk around.. no place go.. just went to starhub and chat.. long time never chat.. so chat about qx trip and etc.. saw ctss schoolmate.. is zhenbei just a harlow and bye.. hehe... still haven change...haha... chat until 11.. at bus stop fc say.. stomach not feeling well.. so just went to the royal hotel.. cos is more cosy and clean.. but the toilet is lock.. walk out.. fc say is ok.. but after a while happen again.. so went to hyatt hotel... haha... reach home at 12...hehe...hey fc don't drink vanilla next time ba.. maybe u are ming gan....hehe...

so.. what to do tomorrow.. maybe meet charlene take sometime and trim my hair...haha... k.. going sleep soon.. nowadays cannot tahan until to late...haha...
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November 25th, 2004

sianz..

k...now is 945 and i have awake.. cos suppose to meet charlene at 1030.. but.. due to some reason postpone 1230... sianz... why she don't sms me earlier... or else i can continue to sleep.. and now i am tired...haiz...sobz.. hope this type of thing don't happen again...

don't know today is my suay day or what... early morning charlene postpone the time then talk to mum.. like quarrel with her.. she ask me to let go some fishes to the pond near my house.. then i tell her maybe i not going to that bus stop.. i might be going to interchange.. so i ask her to let tomorrow or what.. she say will die.. but i say will not lah... then she say me that... i don'w want to help her say so lah... angry loh.. aiya.. forget about it..

so yest.. morning went to trim my hair at QB.. the service there not bad.. and the cutter ask me if i was the first time coming to QB.. i say yes.. and she gave me a comb...haha.. afternoon meet charlene to take the equipment and go home and test... then nite was watching the cellular and ladder49.. i can say.. both the movie is nice... ladder49 is a special movie that i find it diff from others.. maybe is the way he show out....hehe... cellular is also another nice show.. shows how latest technology can harm someone and help someone...

k.. stop here quite long my blog today.. going to take my breakfast already.. s.t.o.p. h.e.r.e.!.!
Currently listening to: Zhou Chuan Xiong - Huan Yuan
Currently feeling: sleepy
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November 26th, 2004

IS...

ok.. back from plaza help my mum to buy lunch.. sobz.. my mum has injure herself.. hope she is alrite...sobz... just read rg blog.. was a nice blog.. i admit.. don't know why i can write such a nice blog... hehe...

k.. early morning wake up at 745... have to help gz to do his IS selection.. cos he taking his TP.. gz..congra... u pass ur TP...hehe...chat a while with qx.. then went back to sleep... so wake up at 1045 again.. to do my own IS... npal was damn f up.. i was so angry.. when i help gz do.. it is not lack or whatever.. but when i do mine.. i log in also take sometime... lucky wj is there to save my day..hehe.. at first.. one of the IS is full.. i was like.. damn.. why so suay.. but after that.. someone give up.. and wj help me.. hehe.. so i was quite happy.. cos all is the same class as them...hehe...

k... think later going out for awhile.. accompany jeremy.. come back for dinner.. then after that.. maybe meet rg and ah boon.. or gz to have some supper...must enjoy myself for the last 2 weeks... school reopening soon...argg....

yest i was thinking to myself...
why do ppl dun believe in me or trust me
when i was talking serious leh..
i know most of the time i was talking crap just to be lame..
thats why u all don't believe in me..
or the attitude that i was giving it to u...
i think if i become a serious and a guy with no lame no crap..
that is not myself..
i just a person with a mask...
maybe i have to just to reduce...
all my crap and lame...
and work more seriously with my life...
just want to have a enjoyable life..
with little stress...
Currently listening to: Cyndi - As time goes by
Posted by gr at 01:20 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 28th, 2004

Mm..just wake up from nap... is a rainning day... should have sleep later...hehe.. so quite boring this weekend..

yest around 530... my cousin sms me.. say that the things has arrived at her home.. cos my bro drove there.. so we chat awhile.. and guess what.. she is sianz at home.. me too.. cos my friends are all busy... so i took a bath and went out... went to chinatown market to have our dinner after that went to mu chuan(www.theark.com.sg).. listen until 10 plus we left.. the shop close at 11pm.. one of the customer is his birthday.. so the singer dedicate a song for him.. and this let me remind me of next year 21st birthday.. i think i don't want to celebrate.. maybe just meet some friends and have dinner.. people say that 21st birthday... is the time that u are becoming a man and have a special birthday that let u remember... i was thinking i just want to swim with the dolphin.. to let me have a nice memory of my 21st birthday....heheh...

sms calvin see if got any program... nope he reply.. so went home rot....hehe.. i was also planning to meet ah boon,eroy or maybe ruiguo.. for supper.. but no van.. slept around 1... thats early for me..nothing to do.. and nothing to watch... and abit tired.. so went to sleep...

today wake up around 11.. pig rite.. thats me...hehe... as usual take breakfast.. do nothing.. then around 2 went to take a nap..haha.. thats my life.. bored... anyone free... just ask me out loh...hehe....
Currently listening to: Dong Ji Ge Lian
Posted by gr at 03:07 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 29th, 2004

...

wahaha.. finish my dinner...now rotting watching tv... leg pain and stomach pain... don't know why after that day..my stomach is not feeling well..sobz..

today should be staying at home but sms fc.. she say is she is going to meet his friend to take bag.. so i just accompany her to take then have our lunch.. before that i should be going to plaza to buy lunch for me and my bro.. but i end up flying aeroplane.. tell him i going to meet my friend for lunch..haha...

came back at 4... promise my bro to run with him... even though tired.. have to force myself to run... don't know why today run my kidney there will pain.. don't know is it cos i wanted to catch up with my bro or not.. but still manage to finish the whole track which i have plan to run... going to train more.. NAFFA is coming.. cannot slack...hehe...
Posted by gr at 08:41 PM | aDd c0mMeNts ??

November 30th, 2004

tired.. think today just write a short one will do.. suppose is to meet my another friend for movie.. but thinking swimming is better... hehe....so went swimming today with jimmy.. reach there around 1130 even thought i meet him at 12.. so went to swim first... around 4 reach home.. take a bath and sleep.. don't know why this 2 days so hardworking.. went jogging and swimming... haha..

morning wake up have a tiff with my mum...she ask me go to help her pay the bills.. then i tell her i going swimming.. so i just take my towel and bath.. so during bath.. i tell her u put the money and bill on the table i go help her pay.. i came out.. she just go out.. i tell her that i help her.. cos i cycle there is more faster.. she just say me.. i go do it myself..ask u all do so difficult... i was like.. what.. early morning tell me this.. i just drink milo take some bread and went out...
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